Lapwing Suggestions

[aerickt]

Any suggestions to lapwing-base.json or lapwing-uk-additions.json can be submitted on this issue as a comment.

[cvennevik]

Missing word from the One Syllable Word drill on Steno Jig: "cad"

It would be KAD, right?

[aerickt]

Added, thanks.

[tadeokondrak]

Missing desperate.

[aerickt]

Added in a3c8d67 thanks.

[willcohen]

As noted in #2 (sorry for opening a silly PR), missing TKAB for dab, found on short-and-long-A drills.

[aerickt]

No worries, added in 45a6e2f.

[cvennevik]

Likely #-typo: "Austere" is 5US/TAOER, would expect AUS/TAOER

[aerickt]

Thanks, added in 60b46ec.

[cvennevik]

Suggestion: Remove SEUFPL for "schism," makes writing "symphony" less strange (seeing "schism" threw me off while trying to stroke SEUFPL/TPHEU)

[cvennevik]

Suggestion: TA/TAOD for "tattooed"

[aerickt]

Thanks, added in f0846dc.

[willcohen]

'bald' is not present. Perhaps change balled to PWA*ULD, and set bald to PWAULD. It appears bald is much more commonly used than balled in general usage.

[aerickt]

Added, thanks.

[aesulus]

Suggest changing "teem/team" from TAOEPL/TAO*EPL to TAOEPL/TAEPL to be more consistent with "ee/ea" pairs like "reed/read" and "steel/steal".

Also, "salmon" is missing.

[aerickt]

@aesulus
A bit hesitant with "team" and "teem" since "team" is a lot more frequent (and this is just what I'm used to from using main.json for a year). I'll think it over but chances are I will probably incorporate this change.

[aerickt]

@aesulus
Fixed in 298e160.

[triallax]

"WhatsApp" is missing, but I'm not sure what strokes should be used. Maybe #WHAT/SAP?

Edit: another one that is missing is "Messenger".

[triallax]

I think there is no stroke in the dictionary for @, is there?

[aerickt]

@mhmdanas Thanks, added.

I should mention that the only translation I have added for the at symbol is `"KWRA*T": "@{^}" . If you have other spacing or capitalization requirements, I would recommend using https://github.com/EPLHREU/emily-symbols .

[triallax]

Hmm, I imagined it to be used more for email addresses, so {^}@{^}. I think that's reasonable to add to the dictionary too. What do you think?

Edit: I also have yet another suggestion to make: "todo." By the way, I'm probably going to have a whole lot of these suggestions, so is it fine if I open a PR that adds my suggestions every once in a while, so as not spam this thread?

[aerickt]

@mhmdanas Oh, you are right. I don't write a lot of email addresses with steno, only mentions such as on GitHub or Discord so @(^} was what made sense to me. A*T is available so I can add that one.

I really don't mind you continuing your suggestions here especially as I'm constantly adding entries on my end. I'm weary of merging PR's since I get the feeling there can be a lot of conflicts and fixing them would be more work than just checking back here whenever I get a notification (I'm not too experienced with git). Also there might be certain entries I wouldn't want to add so I think keeping everything in this thread is fine for now.

[phamlan83]

hi,2w
I can't type "2" : #T by using lapwing-base dictionary. Thanks

[aerickt]

@phamlan83 The conventional steno number system isn't used in Lapwing. Instead it uses a right hand number pad as described here:
https://github.com/aerickt/steno-dictionaries#rh-numpadjson

[phamlan83]

@aerickt Got it. Thanks

[triallax]

Oh, you are right. I don't write a lot of email addresses with steno, only mentions such as on GitHub or Discord so @(^} was what made sense to me. A*T is available so I can add that one.

I don't do that too often either, but sometimes you have to type an email address you were given on paper.

I really don't mind you continuing your suggestions here especially as I'm constantly adding entries on my end. I'm weary of merging PR's since I get the feeling there can be a lot of conflicts and fixing them would be more work than just checking back here whenever I get a notification (I'm not too experienced with git). Also there might be certain entries I wouldn't want to add so I think keeping everything in this thread is fine for now.

Sure, that's okay with me, but nobody blame me if I spam the thread! ;)

[triallax]

Missing words:

• Newsboat (https://github.com/newsboat/newsboat, but maybe it's too niche?)
• crypto
• cryptocurrency

[olivia-fl]

"clumsy" looks like a misentry. It's currently included as KPHRULS/KWREU, but should probably be KHRUPLS/KWREU or KHRUPL/SEU instead.

[aerickt]

@Benjamin-L Thanks, I had seen your message on Discord yesterday and had fixed it on my version already.

[triallax]

Missing words:

• dotfile

(That's it this time)

[aerickt]

@mhmdanas Thanks, added.

[triallax]

• eyepatch
• Osiris

[triallax]

The translation for TEUS should probably be changed from "'tis" to "{~|'^}tis", so that capitalization is carried over (I thought that this should be done for "'imself" too, but I'm not sure if it makes sense to write "'Imself` with a capital I since the i is kind of in the middle of the word. Thoughts?).

[aerickt]

@mhmdanas Thanks, I thought I had fixed that but it turns out I added it to the wrong dictionary.

[triallax]

What is the stroke (or strokes) for the hash symbol, #? Plover's lookup does not return anything, and I wasn't able to find anything in the dictionary (maybe I didn't look hard enough though). It's also not mentioned anywhere in the Lapwing wiki page.

[aerickt]

@mhmdanas I always use Emily's symbols for that. I do have HAERB defined as #{^} in my user.json though I don't use it very often. I'm open to suggestions.

[triallax]

HAERB for #{^}, and HA*ERB for {^}#{^} maybe? (I'm trying to think of an actual use for {^}#, but nothing comes to mind)

Also, please add "Monkeytype" to the dictionary.

[triallax]

• "Macbook" should be spelled as "MacBook"
• "NewPipe" is missing from the dictionary

[triallax]

• playtest
• pentest
• Aeneas (how is this even pronounced?)
• Johnny
• dimwit

[triallax]

• Sway

[triallax]

Maybe add SPAEUFS and SPAEUFS for "spaces"?

Edit: also PHRAEUFS and PHRAEUFZ for "places."

[triallax]

• astrakhan

[xsrvmy]

The translation for 3E6 is incorrectly formatted and outputs &70> onto the screen.

[lynn]

• cappuccino KAP/KHAOE/TPHOE KAP/KHEU/TPHOE
• I feel like PHA/SHAOEPB should be valid for "machine"?

[aerickt]

I feel like PHA/SHAOEPB should be valid for "machine"?

"Long e" spelled with i or y is written with EU. It's not the most intuitive, but unfortunately I think it would be very difficult to change at this point.

[lynn]

• AUG and/or AU/TKPWUFT → august (meaning "impressive, dignified, respected").
• A/HRAOEUPLT → alignment (currently: alignments)
• I think PWAOUR → bureau works pretty nicely. Then you get PWAOUR/KRAES for free.
• congress
• debut

[lynn]

-"HOEPL/HREU": "homily",
+"HOPL/HREU": "homily",

I believe this matches pronunciation better and lets HOEPL/HREU be "homely".

[lynn]

Typo: APL/TKPWUS = ambiguus → ambiguous

[lynn]

I think

"TPHRA*PB/TRO/PEUFT": "philanthropist",
"TPHRA*PB/TRO/PEUBG": "philanthropic",
"TPHRA*PB/TROE/PEUFT": "philanthropy",
"TPHRA*PB/TROE/PEUBG": "philanthropic",

should be

"TPHRA*PB/THRO/PEU": "philanthropy",
"TPHRA*PB/THRO/PEUFT": "philanthropist",
"TPHRA*PB/THRO/PEUBG": "philanthropic",
"TPHRA*PB/THROE/PEU": "philanthropy",
"TPHRA*PB/THROE/PEUFT": "philanthropist",
"TPHRA*PB/THROE/PEUBG": "philanthropic",

[lynn]

"PROEUFR": "processor",
"PROEUFRS": "professors",

I think PROEUFRS is wrong and should be PROEFRS.

[huynhtrankhanh]

"PE/REPL/TOR/KWREU": "peremptory",
"PE/REPL/TREU": "peremptory",

[aerickt]

"PE/REPL/TOR/KWREU": "peremptory",
"PE/REPL/TREU": "peremptory",

Are you suggesting an addition?

[huynhtrankhanh]

Yeah the existing outlines seem like mispronunciations to me

[ethanporcaro]

Suggestion: Looks like #HAOE and #HEUS are in lapwing-proper-nouns but not #HEUPL. In reference to God/Christ