Request for Backend Rewrite in a Cross-Compatible Language for liveSPICE

[standard-librarian]

We’re looking into the possibility of rewriting the backend of liveSPICE in a different language to address the challenges related to using C# and .NET on Mac and Linux systems. The current backend’s reliance on C# and .NET poses limitations for cross-platform compatibility, hindering its accessibility and usability on non-Windows environments.

To enhance the accessibility and versatility of liveSPICE, we’re considering alternative languages such as C, Java, Python, Go, or Rust, which offer better cross-platform support and are more conducive for Mac and Linux users.

M y teammate and I are open to exploring potential contributions to this migration effort, considering the rewiring of the liveSPICE backend for improved cross-compatibility. If the project aligns with our capabilities and goals, we would consider actively engaging in the migration process, should it be a feasible and practical endeavor.

[dsharlet]

There are a few things that C# gives us that are hard to replicate in other languages:

• I like making GUIs in C# more so than other languages. LiveSPICE (at least the GUI application) is a pretty complicated GUI.
• We use the LINQ expression mechanism to provide us with a really nice easy to use JIT compiler. This isn't impossible in other languages, but it usually means pulling in a pretty big dependency (e.g. LLVM), or doing a lot more of the low level optimizations ourselves.

That said: I think .net core is supported on Mac and Linux? Just googling around, people seem to think that .net core (3.1 or later) on Linux is a pretty good environment and performs well (this was not true prior to 3.1). I think the main thing that we are missing is WPF, but that's only needed for the GUI. If you just want the backend on Mac/Linux, maybe the .net code currently just works?

[Federerer]

It is. The only thing that is not supported is WPF. I once considered migrating the frontend to Avalonia, which is cross-platform, but that's a lot of work. W dniu wt., 31.10.2023 o 04:20 Dillon ***@***.***> napisał(a):

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There are a few things that C# gives us that are hard to replicate in other languages: - I like making GUIs in C# more so than other languages. LiveSPICE (at least the GUI application) is a pretty complicated GUI. - We use the LINQ expression mechanism to provide us with a really nice easy to use JIT compiler. This isn't impossible in other languages, but it usually means pulling in a pretty big dependency (e.g. LLVM), or doing a lot more of the low level optimizations ourselves. That said: I think .net core *is* supported on Mac and Linux? Just googling around, people seem to think that .net core (3.1 or later) on Linux is a pretty good environment and performs well (this was not true prior to 3.1). — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#207 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AEVGU4BPSFMUV4NAIFX2V5LYCBU77AVCNFSM6AAAAAA6W7XFR6VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMYTOOBWGM3TKOJUGU> . You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>